From:                              Viv Forbes []

Sent:                               Monday, December 06, 2010 4:13 AM

To:                                   Jack Venrick

Subject:                          No Rerun for "Kyoto Folly".



Please give this a Rerun.


No Rerun for “Rudd’s Folly”

7th December 2010


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The Carbon Sense Coalition today said that Australia must not renew its Kyoto Agreement.


The Chairman of “Carbon Sense”, Mr Viv Forbes, said that the current failing agreement was signed without due diligence by Kevin Rudd and should be referred to as “Rudd’s Folly”.


Forbes continued:


“Appropriately, the death notice for the Kyoto mis-adventure was posted by Japan, the birthplace of Kyoto, when their representative at Cancun Resort announced:


“Japan will not inscribe its target under the Kyoto protocol on any conditions or under any circumstances.”


“Thus the four biggest economies in our region (USA, China, Japan and India) will not sign; nor will Australia’s big competitors in Brazil (iron and beef), Indonesia (coal), Chile (copper) or Canada (wheat).


“If Australia is foolish enough to renew its Kyoto liabilities it will find itself isolated in the Pacific with only gullible Kiwis and faraway Europeans for company.


“The old Soviets have benefitted from Kyoto by outsmarting everyone on choosing the base year. No one else will achieve the unrealistic Kyoto targets, which is lucky because they could not be achieved without a repeat of the Great Depression or the collapse of the Soviet Union.


“The use of carbon fuels, more than any other index, indicates the health of the real economy. The only way to kill carbon is to kill the economy.


“Japan was shocked to realise the billions in liabilities they had accumulated by not meeting Kyoto target cuts.


“Australia avoided a similar fate by robbing Australian landowners. They stole carbon credits from landowners by imposing vegetation clearing bans. This trick can’t be pulled twice. 


“Kyoto also spawned many other wasteful schemes like pink batts, wind and solar toys, carbon burial schemes and regulatory empires.


“The Kyoto Agreement is a costly failure, and the international meetings which document the failure have degenerated into the farce now on display at Cancun.


“Minister Combet should enjoy his tropical holiday, keep his pen in his pocket and sign nothing.”


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Wind Power Lessons from Germany


The bottom line:

“Germans will have to prepare for significantly higher electricity tariffs – and more frequent blackouts.

“If all German wind power projects are realized as planned, the country will incur economic losses well over 100 billion Euros by 2030. 


“The only word that describes this ‘world improvement’ strategy is suicidal.”


From: “Germany’s Offshore Wind: Wasted Resources, Environmental Blight”

By Edgar Gaertner, Master Resource, Dec 1, 2010






No Warming for 15 years.


The chairman of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), Rajendra Pachauri was interviewed recently at Cancun. When asked about the fact that there has been no statistically significant global warming for the past 15 years, Pachauri became evasive.


Most tellingly, while Pachauri agreed that global carbon dioxide emissions have been increasing for the last 15 years, he was at a loss to say how much global temperatures had increased during that same time. That seems like a pretty basic piece of information for the head of the UN's climate panel to know. See the following minute and a half video from CFACT:

Even Phil Jones, a climatologist at the University of East Anglia and a prominent global warming alarmist, admitted there had been no warming for 15 years.

A year after Climategate, however, the IPCC's Pachauri still refuses to face reality and clings to the deeply flawed 4th Assessment Report, which has been completely discredited over the past year.

"This interview revealed that the IPCC chair is ignorant of some very basic facts about global warming," said CFACT's Executive Director, Craig Rucker. "This is particularly striking in light of all the criticism being poured on the IPCC by scientists and independent review panels for its sloppy handling of key data and vital information."



Britain on the way to Coldest December for 29 years.


Britain was braced for another week of chaos last night as forecasters warned temperatures would plummet to as low as -15c (5f).


With some areas covered by up to one metre of snow forecasters said Britain had already seen the deepest and most widespread snowfall for December since 1981.


And if the temperatures remain below average for the rest of the month it could also become the coldest on record since 1981.







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Viv Forbes
Chairman, The Carbon Sense Coalition                 
MS 23 Rosewood, Qld, 4340, Australia
Phone 07 5464 0533







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