----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Venrick
To: jacksranch@skynetbb.com
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 2:59 PM
Subject: How To Play The Traffic Ticket Game With The Police State

To All Property Rights Individual & Groups
Thanks Pat for this.  I would also add the following comments. 
98% of the time a traffic ticket is illegitimate.  It's the same ole taking game and profile, i.e. generating income for the state using unconstitutional legislation applicable to public policy and or commercial business and applying it across the board to sovereign & free state Citizens. 
I mentioned this story before but will repeat for the new arrivals.  I had a Vietnamese Software Engineer working for me on a project for a few years at Boeing.  He was a "boat person" who had escaped Vietnam with enough money to get him to Oregon where he had an Uncle who took him in and put him through the UO or OSU.  Before he came to work for Boeing he worked for the Oregon DMV on their data base. 
Point 1 - He told me that 98%  of the drivers in that db had a ticket going back 5 or more years in their records, i.e. the legislature greedy for more money and wanting to make you more "safe" crawl out of their little sand box and come into your private vehicles, homes, land, etc.
Point 2 - I also heard an average driver commits a traffic violation in three blocks, i.e. same agenda as above.
Point 3 - Whenever you do get a ticket follow the sage advice below AND when you get home,
Point 4 -  Never go argue your own case in court on unless you know how to play the game, i.e. know all of these ticket loop holes. 
Point 5 -  Last but certainly no least, this is another example of the criminality of the DOT
 The deal is, if the traffic attorney does not get you off, you don't pay him.  If he wins your case you owe him 100 to $200 depending on the attorney.  These traffic attorneys also know the cops and their habits and the exact laws they usually break.  The judge knows that your attorney but how many people know now what you know.
Also with this approach near 100% chance of winning, you will not have to deal with any potential insurance cost increase.
The gangsters are now running our government and we live in an age of "Shake Down The Private Property Owners" .  Because of all the discrimination against private property, they know where they live, the cars we drive, where we work, the money we make, where our assets are and all the illegitimate taxes, fines, fees, codes, ordinances, acts, tickets, ad nausea we are going to pay.  This invasion of our privacy and trespassing upon our property goes against all the founding laws.
I have attached some of my DOT tyranny emails above FYI. 
Another great resource to fully understand the misfeasance and malfeasance of the DOT upon our individual rights is this site
Richard McDonald would be an excellent resource to come and speak at you event.  In addition to awakening people on the general state takings he also has a seminar on traffic and citizenship according to these files.
Here is an excellent case to exemplify and clarify the complete usurping of our founding rights via adhesion deceptions, i.e. coercive & deceptive fraudulent contracts.
Read Richard McDonald's Seminar on state Citizenship - https://section520.org/rjmseminar1.html
Q: Are you a citizen of the United States?
A: No, I am not.
Q: Are you a resident of Arizona?
A: No, I am not. I was born in Phoenix. I have lived in Maricopa County all my life, but I am not a resident. I do not reside.
Q: Are you registered to vote?
A: No, I am not.
Q: Do you have a driver's license?
A: No, I do not.
Q: Do you have any motor vehicles registered in Arizona?
A: No, I do not.
Q: Are you employed?
A: No. I am not. I am not employed. I am not unemployed. I am not self-employed. I am not gainfully employed. In fact, I am not employable. But, I work. Besides, Arizona is a  right to work state.
Q: Do you pay state and federal resident income taxes?
A: No, I do not.
Q: Do you pay property taxes in Arizona?
A: No, I do not.
Q: Do you have a marriage license?
A: No, I do not.
Q: Do you have children enrolled in public school?
A: No, I do not. My children are home taught.
You've really done your homework! "
Enumclaw, Washington

We donít live in the good old days when the police were on our side any more.  These suggestions could help keep you out of trouble.



Things to Remember When Confronted By The Police

If you have a confrontation with the police - know your rights and know what you
should or should not do to give them up. Just follow these 10 rules:

1. Donít Talk.
Do not say a word to the officer. Just shut up! I cannot stress to you the
importance of this rule. Do not talk! Do not attempt to convince the officer of
your innocence. Everyone is innocent, no one should be arrested and no one
should be in jail and that is all the officer hears all day every day. He / she
does not care generally whether you are innocent or guilty and there is nothing
that he / she can do at this point. Most times, when people speak to officers
they say something that makes their situation far worse. Keep your mouth shut,
there will be plenty of time to talk later.

2. Donít Run.
I said above to listen to the officer and follow his / her instructions. Do not
be scared and do not let the liquid courage, aka alcohol, convince you that you
can outrun the twelve officers and helicopter that will track you down. Also,
police become highly suspicious that someone running has a weapon and may be
quick to draw their weapon. Additionally, when they do run you down expect much
stronger force used to subdue a fleeing suspect.

3. Never Resist Arrest.
Perhaps the most important thing not to do is touch the police officer at all!
Again, sober up quick and follow what the officer says. Many people attempt to
bump the officer or swat an officers hands away. This often falls under the
assault statutes and now a minor misdemeanor arrest becomes a FELONY. Thus a
reckless driving charge leads to a year or more in state prison. Additionally,
touching the officer in any way can lead to a baton in the mouth.

4. Donít Believe the Police.
It is perfectly legal for the police to lie to get you to make an admission. The
police frequently separate two friends and tell one the other one ratted him /
her out. Because of the lie, the other friend now rats the first friend out.
Police and detectives also state that ďit will be easierĒ to talk nowÖLIES!!!
DONíT BELIEVE THIS BS! It will only be easier for the police to prove their

5. No Searching.
Do not allow the police to search anywhere! If the police officer asks, they do
not have the right to search and must have your consent. If you are asked make
sure you proclaim to any witnesses that ďYou (the police) do not have consent to
search.Ē If they perform the search anyway, that evidence may be thrown out
later. Also, if you consent to a search, the officers may find something that
you had no idea you had placed somewhere, ie: marijuana left by a friend. (my input, what could be more frightening than law enforcement planting something illegal that you HONESTLY have no recollection!)
Remember, that denying the police consent to search DOES NOT give them the
probable cause they would need to conduct a search.

6. Donít Look At Places Where You Donít Want Police to Search.
Police are trained to watch you and react to you. They know that you are nervous
and scared and many people look to the areas that they donít want the police to
search. Do not react to the search and do not answer any questions. LOOK DOWN

7. Do Not Talk Shit to the Police.
I donít care if you have been wrongly arrested and the true culprit is standing
in front of you. Donít talk shit! Police hear all day that my dad is the the
Governorís Assistantís Intern and I will have your badge for this! Police have a
lot of discretion in the upcoming charges brought. Police can add charges,
change a misdemeanor to a felony, or even talk to the prosecutor that is
ultimately prosecuting you.

8. If Police Come to Your Home, Do not Let Them In and Do Not Step Outside Your
If the police are confident you have committed a felony, they are coming in
anyway, because they generally donít need an arrest warrant. Make it clear to
the police by stating: ďNo you may not come inĒ, or ďI am comfortable talking
right hereĒ, or ďYou need a search warrant to enter my home.Ē If they return,
your attorney can arrange for you to turn yourself in should that be necessary
and you will spend no time in jail between the hearings.

9. Outside Your Home Arrested, Do Not Accept Offer to Go In Your Home for
The officer may say to you, how about you go inside and change, freshen up, talk
to your wife, husband, get a jacket, or any other reason. The police will
graciously escort you in and then tear your home apart searching through it.
Also, do not let them secure your car. Your car is fine. Remember they are lying
to you. They donít give a damn if you are really cold or if you need to talk to
your wife or husband.

10. Donít say a word.
Itís incredible how many people feel that they can convince the officer, the
booking officer or a detective (if your case reaches that stature) that they are
not guilty. YOUR CASE IS NOT DECIDED BY THESE PEOPLE. They have no affect on
your records. Wait to speak to your lawyer! The courts give enormous weight to
ďconfessionsĒ during this stage. A suspect is almost NEVER released after being

Follow these ten simply rules religiously and many of your rights will remain
intact. I donít care how nervous, scared or drunk you are, THESE RULES ARE VERY
IMPORTANT, and will help you tremendously in the short and long run. And
remember - we are not your lawyer!


You'll notice that rule #1 and rule #10 are the same. SHUT UP!

There is a very good reason for that.

Forget the word "can." Anything you say to the police WILL be used against you.


Matter of fact, having worked in all of the following at one time or another, I can tell you that you never, never, NEVER give one word of information to the police, a bank, or an insurance company that you are not required to give. NOT ONE WORD!

These people are not your friends.

Get used to it.