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From:                              Rachel Gay Rosser [saverosserhome@yahoo.com]

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Sent:                               Tuesday, March 18, 2014 1:16 PM

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To:                                   Hill, Elizabeth

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Cc:                                   Meins, Mike; Bottheim, Steve; Peterson, Ty; Peter Ray; Truman਍ഀ O'Brien; Andrewgniss; John (Jack) R. Venrick

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Subject:                          Re: Rules on lighting, setbacks for structures,

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Good Morning Elizabeth,

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Hope this finds you਍ഀ well.

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ALL water tanks, fences,਍ഀ backstop, dugouts, bleachers, stadium lights, electric light poles and lines਍ഀ & entire project relate to one very important aspect.

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The property lines from਍ഀ which to determine and measure the "setbacks" from.

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Following is the਍ഀ information that denotes property lines established; 

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1) original surveyed਍ഀ & established W.M. Section Lines WA Territories, 

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2)1864 lines established਍ഀ & signed as accepted by President Lincoln, (Survey monuments removed by਍ഀ VPD) 

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3)1912 surveyed and਍ഀ staked lines signed & recorded as accepted KC, WA State,  (Survey਍ഀ markers removed by VPD ) 

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4)1944 signed &਍ഀ recorded as accepted KC, 

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5)1947 signed &਍ഀ recorded as accepted KC WA State, ( Survey monuments and marker removed VPD਍ഀ ) 

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6) US Geodetic Survey਍ഀ marker 1950's (Marker removed VPD)

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6) 1925 &1960's lot਍ഀ mapping KC Assessors Office 

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NO KC, State or Federal਍ഀ documents or mapping seem to exist that make ANY alterations, changes, moving਍ഀ or adjustments of lot lines or borderlines to parcels # 292-303-9081,਍ഀ #202-303-9020, #292-303-9019.

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NO KC, State or Federal਍ഀ review process seem to exist that reflect law and regulation was਍ഀ accomplished to make changes of these long recognized boundaries, lines,਍ഀ private roadways and prescriptive easements.

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NO KC Agency has been਍ഀ able to provide us with any "new" documentation that would move,਍ഀ change, alter, adjust or relocate the lines as upheld for over a century.

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What lines are the KC DDES/DPER਍ഀ measuring from?  

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This absolutely MUST be਍ഀ resolved before ANY claims to law and regulation setbacks can be accomplished.

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Thank you.

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Margaret and Gay Rosser

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Friends and Neighbors of

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saverosserhome@yahoo.com 

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On Monday, March 17, 2014 5:18 PM, "Hill, Elizabeth"਍ഀ <Elizabeth.Hill@kingcounty.gov>਍ഀ wrote:

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Gay:

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I have had an਍ഀ opportunity to look into the setbacks for the water tanks in more detail and I਍ഀ have met with Steve Bottheim who sent you the previous attached email in April਍ഀ of 2013.    DPER previously determined that the setback for the਍ഀ water tanks would be 30 feet from the property line.   See the email਍ഀ Steve Botthiem sent you and also the relevant code section.   ਍ഀ Recently, when I looked at the code with Ty Peterson we were looking at code਍ഀ section 21A.08.040 B,1,c.  which is why I thought there was going to be a਍ഀ 50 foot setback to the tanks.  

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In short, DPER਍ഀ previously determined that the setback for the tanks would be 30 feet and they਍ഀ told the Parks Department to move the tanks 30 feet from the property਍ഀ line.   The Parks Department has complied with DPERs request as shown਍ഀ in the attached photograph.

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I hope this email਍ഀ finds you well Gay and that you are pleased that the tanks have been moved.

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Elizabeth Hill

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Senior Deputy Ombudsman਍ഀ for Rural and Unincorporated Area Affairs

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King County Ombudsman’s਍ഀ Office

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516 Third Avenue, Room਍ഀ W1039

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Seattle, Wa. ਍ഀ 98104-2317

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206-477-1058

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This email is a public਍ഀ record and may be subject to public disclosure

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From: Hill, Elizabeth
਍ഀ Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 4:46 PM
਍ഀ To: 'Rachel Gay Rosser'
਍ഀ Cc: Meins, Mike
਍ഀ Subject: Rules on lighting, setbacks for structures,

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Gay:

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The rules on lighting਍ഀ are set-forth in 21A.08.040 B,1,b.  Lighting for structures and fields਍ഀ shall be directed away from rural area and residential zones.

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DPER is considering the਍ഀ tanks structures and therefore 21A.08.040 B,1,c.  applies which states਍ഀ that Structures or services yards shall maintain a minimum distance of 50 feet਍ഀ from property lines…   You are aware that the County has issued਍ഀ  a report of construction deficiency to the Vashon Park District and it is਍ഀ my understanding talking to the Director of the Vashon Park District that they਍ഀ are going to bring this into compliance by moving the tanks.

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DPER is considering the਍ഀ dug out, the batting cage, and the other fencing, all as fencing since there is਍ഀ no roof on any of it and it is just a series of fences.   Code਍ഀ section 21A.08.040  B.1.c also applies.    Structures or਍ഀ services yards shall maintain a minimum distance of fifty feet from property਍ഀ lines adjoining rural areas and residential zones, except for fences, wire mesh਍ഀ backstops…..

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Gay I think you are਍ഀ asking good questions.  Hopefully having these answers gives you some਍ഀ peace.   I have attached the related code sections and I am਍ഀ continuing to work on your other questions.

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Elizabeth Hill

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Senior Deputy Ombudsman਍ഀ for Rural and Unincorporated Area Affairs

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516 Third Avenue, Room਍ഀ W1039

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Seattle, Wa. ਍ഀ 98104-2317

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206-477-1058

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This email is a public਍ഀ record and may be subject to public disclosure

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